Learn the nuts and bolts of Enneagram typing interviews

with Leslie Hershberger

Date: TBA
Time: TBA
Cost: $400
Location: Online

In my 20+ years of working with the Enneagram, I have never had so many people come to classes and sessions mistyped. Why?

  • POPULARITY: As the Enneagram has been popularized, endless memes describing amusing behaviors and tendencies have focused excessively on what’s happening on the OUTSIDE of someone: behaviors, preferences, clothing, interests. This is misguided as the Enneagram is about what is going on on the INSIDE.
  • STEREOTYPES: “2s are loving and giving. If we meet someone who is self-righteous or arrogant, it couldn’t possibly be a 2. “9s are peaceful and calm” so if we meet someone who’s irritable and snappy they mustn’t be a 9. These stereotypes miss the nuance of each Enneagram type and the paradoxical nature of being human.
  • OTHER INFLUENCES: Geographical location, culture, family of origin, generational influences (Millennials, GenX and Boomers respond quite differently)
  • BIASES: Depending on where you learn the Enneagram, there are inherent biases. You need to learn to spot them. I’ve taught the Enneagram at a number of organizations where employees were trying to be a certain type because it was valued within the company culture and avoiding/or another type that was devalued by their manager.
  • STATE: Your state is your moment by moment state of mind, heart and body. It changes given the current conditions. The you who is homeschooling your children during a pandemic is a very different from the you who is on vacation.

With this in mind, I have developed a program to help you learn the nuts and bolts of an Enneagram typing interview. 

In this 8 hour program you:

  • Learn how to listen for patterns of attention, emotion, energy and behavior.
  • Learn nuanced information you gain from Enneagram patterns which include:
    • Enneagram Centers and Functions
    • The 3 primary Social Styles
    • The 3 primary Conflict Styles
  • Learn common mistypings and how you can identify differentiations between “look alike” types
  • Learn non-Enneagram related patterns that influence responses
  • Practice self-observation so you can identify your own “typing bias” when helping someone discover their type. You learn how you get “thrown off” when listening to people.
  • Observe Leslie conducting a typing interview. She will share mistakes she has made along the way.
  • Watch video clips of shows and break into small groups to discuss patterns you notice. Your small group will share your observations with the larger group

You receive:

  • Post session exercises to practice
  • Centers PDFs to help you observe how different centers orient their attention
  • Social Style PDFs to help you observe
  • Conflict Style PDFs
  • Links and book recommendations to support your study

What this program is:

  • A nuts and bolts primer to learn how to do an Enneagram typing interview
  • A process of self-observation which helps you observe how your own individual and cultural biases impact you ability to offer your interviewee clarity
  • An opportunity to hone your skills of self-observation and observations of others through small group breakouts, video clips and at-home practices
  • A practice in learning how to develop wisdom through deep listening and receptivity
  • An opportunity to learn how to set up peer-to-peer interview practice groups

What this program is not:

  • An “instant expert “course. Typing is a skill. Like any skill worth learning, it takes practice and humility.
  • A program with a mentor as you practice the skill of typing.  Leslie does a few of these per year, but can’t do mentoring with the whole class. She can refer you to people willing to mentor new students.
  • A certification program


I’ve been working with the Enneagram for over 20 years and have conducted hundreds of typing interviews and Enneagram panel interviews to support client’s personal and professional development. My clients are as close as my home in Cincinnati and as far away as Colorado, Brazil, Australia, Thailand and Germany. They vary from parents and teens to grandparents. They are teachers, students, therapists, CEOs, non-profit workers, hospice volunteers, physicians, attorneys, business people, technology consultants and everything in between.

I am committed to skillful, competent use of the Enneagram for the development of healthy, resilient and compassionate people.


  • Enneagram Teacher in the Narrative Tradition, Certificate Program (2002) Enneagram Professional Training Program, San Francisco, CA
  • The Narrative Enneagram Intentional Learning Community for Certified Teachers: Spiritual Development, Meditation and Integration Psychology and Spirituality (2003-Present) Bergamo Retreat Center: Dayton, Ohio
  • Meditation Training (2004), Jack Kornfield, PhD., Founder Insight Meditation Society
  • The Enneagram in Business (2006) Ginger Lapid-Bogda, PhD (Organizational Development), The Enneagram in Business
  • Using the Enneagram for Effective Leadership and Self-Management, Coach and Therapist Training (2008), David Daniels Workshops with David Daniels, MD (Psychiatry) Stanford University
  • Certificate and Support Trainer: Coaching with the Enneagram (2013), Ginger Lapid-Bogda, PhD., Enneagram in Business/Professional Development
  • Somatic Experiencing® for Healing Trauma, Part 1 (2016), Somatic Experiencing® Trauma Institute


Presenter: The Experiential Enneagram, Tri-Health Integrative Health and Medicine, 2006
Keynote: The Integration of Integral Theory and the Enneagram: Narrative Enneagram Conference, San Francisco, CA
Presenter: Weaving Teaching and Facilitation: Two Distinct Skills to Facilitate Personal Development, Association Enneagram Teachers in the Narrative Tradition Annual Conference
Keynote: Inner and Outer: Theory and Practice for Spiritual Development, Enfolding Spirituality Conference, Redondo, CA with fellow keynotes Don Beck and Rob Bell.
Facilitator: Speaking of Addiction and Recovery: Compelling Conversations with a Panel of Experts in the Enneagram, Addiction and Recovery, International Enneagram Association Global Conference, Minneapolis, Minnesota.


“Leslie is both warm hearted, and thoughtful in her teaching and coaching. I have witnessed her depth of knowledge, teaching skill, and awareness. I consider her a brilliant teacher and life coach. Her insight into the fundamentals of their personal and spiritual development makes her teaching especially poignant. I recommend her highly.

David Daniels, M.D. co-founder of the Enneagram Professional Training Program (EPTP) and Clinical Professor, Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences, Stanford Medical School

Leslie solidly meets the two major criteria I feel are necessary to be an excellent teacher in this field. She is a continual learner about the system and its many aspects, and she is committed to her own journey to “walk her talk.” Her work is supported by many trainings and certifications in the Enneagram and other fields including an ongoing learning community with peers. I have personally witnessed and admire her capacity to pause, reflect, and grow through difficult encounters.

I have also witnessed her incredible energy and commitment to bringing this work to the world. Leslie is an innovator of the finest degree and has made many original contributions to the field of Enneagram study. She weaves the Enneagram with Integral theory and neuroscience as well as other relevant modalities. Leslie is a gift to the worldwide Enneagram community.

Terry Saracino, MA, MBA, Core Faculty member of TNE, founder of nonprofit Enneagram Studies in the Narrative Tradition (ESNT) in 2009

Leslie’s presentation impressed me deeply because of its integrative focus and clarity. I have come to understand and admire Leslie’s very deep and very broad perspective on spiritual pursuits and practice. I have also come to know what a gifted, patient, and generous teacher she is.

Jack Killen, Director of the Office of International Health Research (OIHR), National Institute of Health, National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine


  • Anna E. and William F. Madges Award for evidence using the theological objectives at Xavier University and distinguished contribution to society
  • Enneagram expert in the book, Integral Recovery: A Revolutionary Approach to the Treatment of Alcoholism and Addiction (Suny Press), winner of 2013 USA Best Book Awards



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